IRREGULAR #2: Furries

Irregular

Furries

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For our second episode, we have a meandering conversation with three very different people inside the furry community. Kaye Devin (a shiba inu who does commission art), Veneer Maro (a snow leopard who just got her first fursuit), and Ari (a lion who is proud of his kinks).

We spend about an hour talking about the genesis of realizing that you are a furry, the procurement and utilization of fursuits, and the plusses and minuses of the furry community as a whole.

Music: L'Aguardiente by Camper Van Beethoven

Last Updated on Friday, 16 May 2014 19:50  

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+8 #64 Verxanadu 2012-07-25 19:49
Quoting Jessica:
I'm pretty sure I had a dream last night that I was listening to a new F Plus episode... then I woke up.

If one dreamt that had new F Plus episode means will marry a governor.
If dreamt Isfahan read terrible fan fiction means will have a beautiful child.
If an agent dreamt that was no new episode means he will be bored at work.
If he isn't an agent means will have a sorrow.
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0 #63 Jessica 2012-07-25 19:30
I'm pretty sure I had a dream last night that I was listening to a new F Plus episode... then I woke up.
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0 #62 A Meat 2012-07-23 22:42
Quoting Isfahan, continued:
So eventually furries will get to finding the worst of the worst amongst them: ones who think nothing of giving or receiving blowjobs in public during a BBQ, for example. To attempt to kick any sort of ass, however, would be a can of worms so big that you would, fuckin... I don't know, it'd be a can so big you'd need some kind of super-sized novelty can opener to open it, but open it would.

Even as you're open it won't. You're welcome, Toast.


Yeah, on second thought, that sounds bad, I've been around the internet and I've seen some really fucked up stuff, and I can kinda guess what would happen once you start ousting people from the all-accepting group.
I don't think we want the creepy lolicon/shotaco n furries currently being hidden from the majority to erupt out and create their own groups, and echo chamber into accepting the most reprehensible possible.
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+3 #61 Isfahan, continued 2012-07-23 13:38
So eventually furries will get to finding the worst of the worst amongst them: ones who think nothing of giving or receiving blowjobs in public during a BBQ, for example. To attempt to kick any sort of ass, however, would be a can of worms so big that you would, fuckin... I don't know, it'd be a can so big you'd need some kind of super-sized novelty can opener to open it, but open it would.

Even as you're open it won't. You're welcome, Toast.
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+3 #60 Isfahan 2012-07-23 13:34
Quoting A Meat:
Or is it purely tautological, as in, "A furry is whoever identifies as a furry"?


Well, a lot of the reason that furries are so accepting of everyone is that "furry" still acts more often as an adjective than a noun.

"I am a furry x," where x = "inflation fetishist," or "vore fetishist," or so on, and yes, even the more benign stuff like "artist". It's hard to just "be a furry;" it seems like you gotta be a furry something.

So furries are sort of trapped by their own openness due to the slippery slope. I mean, if they turn away all of the babyfurs, then who's to say they should let the vore-type people hang around? Those people gotta go too. And while we're at it, inflation/latex furs, you guys hit the road behind them, et cetera.
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0 #59 A Meat 2012-07-23 12:15
I've been wondering, since I haven't ever been part of the furry community or anything, is there some sort of thing that differentiates between a furry and a non-furry? Or is it purely tautological, as in, "A furry is whoever identifies as a furry"?
And apologies in advance if I'm insulting or condescending, but what is the point of identifying as a furry in the first place?
Everyone has their own weird quirks and habits, and adopting animal traits or drawing anthropomorphic animals or fursuits is so benign in contrast to some other things. But my point is, why accept the group mentality of "We are ALL a family if we ALL identify as x, and whoever does not accept a member of our family, by proxy is against us."
Of course this probably doesn't apply to all furries, but I've heard these voices being shouted.
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+2 #58 Naomi 2012-07-22 10:53
Quoting Isfahan:
Quoting Naomi:
I'm still hoping for bronies.
Anyway, if you guys want a brony episode of Irregular, I need new leads, because I don't know where to go from here.


Sorry I wasn't more clear on this, but I'd rather see a brony episode of The F+ than Irregular. I'm not discounting the possibility that there are guys out there who can speak intelligently about jerkin' it to little cartoon horses and finding the meaning of life through Hasbro toys; it's just that I've yet to see any proof that such people exist.

Now, if you're looking for Irregular fodder specifically, I'd love to hear from some of the 2D waifu guys. I read an NYT article discussing the phenomenon in Japan, and the people they interviewed seemed interesting and somewhat sympathetic.
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0 #57 Isfahan 2012-07-21 09:23
Quoting Naomi:
I'm still hoping for bronies.


I e-mailed the guy who owns Equestria Daily, which is like the main nexus blog for all things brony, inviting him and some of the other folks who post news on the blog to record an episode. He politely declined. I think the podcast name might have scared them off. Anyway, if you guys want a brony episode of Irregular, I need new leads, because I don't know where to go from here.

Ideally I'm looking for someone who's not a straight-up consumer of the fandom, but someone who produces something themselves: fanfic authors, artists, what have you. In addition to giving us more talking points, people are more likely to appear if they have something they can plug.

If someone has leads for me, please don't put their details in the comments. You can leave me a Steam message. I use this name.
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0 #56 montrith 2012-07-21 07:08
Quoting Naomi:
It all seems pretty tame, compared to most of the other stuff from the podcast.


Like you said, RLSHs come in many categories. Some of them are just regular guys who clean up trash/collect toys for charity etc. However, even though they might be good guys it doesn't mean there isn't plenty of material to be had from the topic. The problem again is where do you draw the line between Well Meaning Citizen and Warning Example.

www.therlsh.net/.../

Apparently they don't know either.
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0 #55 Naomi 2012-07-21 00:23
Quoting Tanny:
Quoting Bionichute:

This reminds me, you guys should do an episode on Real Life Superheroes. People dress up in gaudy outfits and walk around throwing candy at kids.
But that sounds like a NICE thing to do, if weird.

Depends on the individual. There are "heroes" who never do anything whatsoever to earn the title, and there are "villains" who assist the Make-A-Wish Foundation. It all seems pretty tame, compared to most of the other stuff from the podcast.

I'm still hoping for bronies.
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0 #54 Tanny 2012-07-20 16:23
Quoting Bionichute:
Quoting icarus:
is this the same guy from maryland who pretends to be a superhero

This reminds me, you guys should do an episode on Real Life Superheroes. People dress up in gaudy outfits and walk around throwing candy at kids.
But that sounds like a NICE thing to do, if weird.
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0 #53 Bionichute 2012-07-20 15:09
Quoting icarus:
is this the same guy from maryland who pretends to be a superhero

This reminds me, you guys should do an episode on Real Life Superheroes. People dress up in gaudy outfits and walk around throwing candy at kids. And that's not even bringing up the Real Life Supervillains, who are literally just teenagers pretending to be Heith Ledger's Joker. There's a website with their back stories and costumes. They're like a Justice League of losers.
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0 #52 icarus 2012-07-20 08:05
Quoting JT:
Quoting Cleretic:
I'm pretty sure I don't know any LARPers, sadly.


Minor LJ:

A friend of mine is currently renting a room in a 40-something LARPer's house. I recently helped move in some furniture, and the place has to be the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The dude has just all these piles of armor and models of ships and shit stacked literally almost to the ceiling, and various weapons - medieval swords, bowie knives, katanas, actual guns - just lying out in the open. Just right out in the open, where a kid could just pick it up and put it in his mouth or something. In the living room, he also has fireworks (again, right out in the open), a bookshelf full of wolf statues, and a stack of Ayn Rand books.


is this the same guy from maryland who pretends to be a superhero and "investigates" abandoned buildings in broad daylight? i forget what he called himself but it was probably like THE PHANTASM or something.
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-3 #51 icarus 2012-07-20 08:04
Quoting Kaye:

But most furries don't fuck in their fursuits. Being in a suit means being hot, sweaty, and with limited range of vision, not to mention difficulty in cleaning and the warranties many makers place on suits that tend to prohibit modifications that would make suit sex possible.

Yes, there are people that do it, but it's really not very common.


it's also probably worth noting that a "partial" fursuit is not the same as a fursuit with shorts to hide a SPH. having actual pants and a shirt on *not* over your suit just means you didn't spring for the full body outfit.

plus, furries willingly playing with kids > people screaming STUPID SPROG GTFO and spurning children merely for existing

ps, some fursuits look fucking awesome.
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-3 #50 Kaye 2012-07-20 05:00
Quoting The Laughter:
I know the show isn't about getting salty with the guests but man, one thing I wish you would have brought up was when they were talking about showing off their fursuits to kids that, since they're using these suits to fuck, that doing that is REALLY CREEPY and should not be done. Yeesh.

But most furries don't fuck in their fursuits. Being in a suit means being hot, sweaty, and with limited range of vision, not to mention difficulty in cleaning and the warranties many makers place on suits that tend to prohibit modifications that would make suit sex possible.

Yes, there are people that do it, but it's really not very common.
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0 #49 JT 2012-07-19 23:24
Quoting Isfahan:
Quoting JT:
karate Charles Bronson


Does he have a ponytail? I bet he has a ponytail. If he doesn't have a ponytail, then he has one in spirit, guaranteed.

He did not when I saw him, however, he did have exactly the long, oily hair typically associated with that kind of thing. I'm sure he's no stranger to the Libertarian Ponytail.
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+2 #48 The Laughter 2012-07-19 22:33
I know the show isn't about getting salty with the guests but man, one thing I wish you would have brought up was when they were talking about showing off their fursuits to kids that, since they're using these suits to fuck, that doing that is REALLY CREEPY and should not be done. Yeesh.
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+5 #47 Isfahan 2012-07-19 22:08
Quoting JT:
karate Charles Bronson


Does he have a ponytail? I bet he has a ponytail. If he doesn't have a ponytail, then he has one in spirit, guaranteed.
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0 #46 JT 2012-07-19 19:14
The best part, though: I cracked a joke at one point, saying the place was a burglar's paradise, and he told me a 100%-true-and-n ot-at-all-made- up story about how he once singlehandedly fought off a burglar himself. With karate.

I really want to find out if this guy has a website. If he does, it's got to be fucking amazing.
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+1 #45 JT 2012-07-19 19:13
Quoting Cleretic:
I'm pretty sure I don't know any LARPers, sadly.


Minor LJ:

A friend of mine is currently renting a room in a 40-something LARPer's house. I recently helped move in some furniture, and the place has to be the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The dude has just all these piles of armor and models of ships and shit stacked literally almost to the ceiling, and various weapons - medieval swords, bowie knives, katanas, actual guns - just lying out in the open. Just right out in the open, where a kid could just pick it up and put it in his mouth or something. In the living room, he also has fireworks (again, right out in the open), a bookshelf full of wolf statues, and a stack of Ayn Rand books.
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0 #44 dave 2012-07-19 04:01
Some choice excerpts from Fatal and Friends would surely make good fplus materiel, since precedent is that Irregular gets made after at least one episode about the subject.

Of course knowing you guys you've probably already read the entire thing.
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0 #43 Cleretic 2012-07-19 03:54
Quoting Isfahan:
Quoting Cleretic:
roleplaying


Now are you talking about MMO roleplayers specifically? Tabletop folks? LARPers?

Oh man, LARPers would be a good one. I'd want that, then an alternate version of the episode where they all stay in-character.


MMO roleplayers, although I know a good chunk of them do tabletop stuff too. I'm pretty sure I don't know any LARPers, sadly.
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+1 #42 Chaz GELF 2012-07-19 00:56
Quoting Runic244:
Am I right to assume that GELF is a Genetically Engineered Life Form, a la Red Dwarf?


You are indeed correct! Chaz GELF looks nothing like any of the GELFs in Red Dwarf, but I kinda sorta borrowed the acronym from the show because I love that show and I felt "Genetically Engineered Life Form" was a better name for him than "Fuzzy mouthless alien thing".
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0 #41 Ragny 2012-07-18 23:40
Quoting Isfahan:
Oh man, LARPers would be a good one. I'd want that, then an alternate version of the episode where they all stay in-character.

I was going to volunteer but I might not be a serious enough LARPer. I mean, I assume you'd want to talk to the people really engaged in their characters and their role playing. My friends and I, we mostly just dress up in black and hit ourselves with foam swords and nerf guns in a nearby forest at night for laughs.

Also the episode where I stay in character would be really boring because my character is mute.
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0 #40 Runic244 2012-07-18 15:11
Quoting Chaz GELF:
Quoting ~:
Also not everyone has one furrsona; some people may have multiple characters, no one of which is uniquely their avatar


I'm one of those kinds of guys. I have way too many "Chaz" characters, each of which is basically like an outfit I wear for my trips into the wonderful world of the Internet. (Chaz GELF is the primary one right now, being a fuzzy alien of some kind)

Quoting Cleretic:
Have been thinking of getting together some roleplayers for an Irregular episode, but I'm not sure how interesting that'd be.


I say go for it, the world of roleplaying has some interesting aspects and oddities that might be good to cover in an Irregular episode!

Am I right to assume that GELF is a Genetically Engineered Life Form, a la Red Dwarf?
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+1 #39 Isfahan 2012-07-18 12:23
Quoting Chaz GELF:
Oh my god this is an amazing idea.


Well, I was joking, really. It'd be entertaining, but against the spirit of Irregular. In that capacity, they'd be more like exhibits than a panel brought on to give an insider explanation.
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0 #38 Navigator 2012-07-18 11:57
Quoting Cleretic:
Have been thinking of getting together some roleplayers for an Irregular episode, but I'm not sure how interesting that'd be.


If they roleplay the way I do, it'll probably be really interesting, actually. I'd listen to that in a heartbeat. (Or be on it, but. XD; )
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+1 #37 Chaz GELF 2012-07-18 10:18
Quoting Isfahan:
Then an alternate version of the episode where they all stay in-character.


Oh my god this is an amazing idea. Another good episode would be MUD/MUSH Roleplayers, since we've had an episode dedicated to ridiculous MU* character descriptions. I've roleplayed on a few MUs and even forums in the past, those were some pretty fun times!
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+4 #36 Isfahan 2012-07-18 10:03
Quoting Cleretic:
roleplaying


Now are you talking about MMO roleplayers specifically? Tabletop folks? LARPers?

Oh man, LARPers would be a good one. I'd want that, then an alternate version of the episode where they all stay in-character.
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0 #35 Chaz GELF 2012-07-18 09:58
Quoting ~:
Also not everyone has one furrsona; some people may have multiple characters, no one of which is uniquely their avatar


I'm one of those kinds of guys. I have way too many "Chaz" characters, each of which is basically like an outfit I wear for my trips into the wonderful world of the Internet. (Chaz GELF is the primary one right now, being a fuzzy alien of some kind)

Quoting Cleretic:
Have been thinking of getting together some roleplayers for an Irregular episode, but I'm not sure how interesting that'd be.


I say go for it, the world of roleplaying has some interesting aspects and oddities that might be good to cover in an Irregular episode!
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